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No! All of Me: Therapists Reflect on Identity, Perfection, and Being Seen in K-Pop Demon Hunters

We’ve been talking a lot lately at People Bloom about K-Pop Demon Hunters. Honestly? We’ve lost count of how many times we’ve all watched it.

In a bit of a departure from our usual style, several of our clinicians are sharing their reflections here. Before we dive in, a quick note: none of us identify as belonging to Korean culture. We have, however, worked with many clients with Korean roots and wanted to approach this story thoughtfully. To add more depth, we recommend these videos from a Korean teacher, which offer beautiful cultural nuances about the film.

This movie hit us differently. While it’s packed with style and supernatural stakes, what lingered for us as clinicians was the raw, human pulse underneath the spectacle. At its core is the desperate desire to be truly seen and accepted, even when the world demands we hide. That tension between protecting ourselves and being fully known is a struggle we see in our practice every day.

Ketaki on Being Seen and Heard

The Longing to Be Seen and Heard

One of the things that stood out to me in K-Pop Demon Hunters comes from the lyrics of What It Sounds Like. The song captures a longing many people have for spaces where they’re truly seen and heard. That idea shows up powerfully in Rumi’s story. When her demon side is revealed, people’s perception of her changes instantly. Yet she hasn’t actually changed. She’s always been part demon and part human. What shifts is how others see her.

“No! All of Me!”

That shift in perception is especially painful in her relationship with Celine. In many ways, Celine did the best she could with what she knew. At some point, though, it stopped working because there were other layers that hadn’t been acknowledged. Their confrontation captures this heartbreak in such a simple but powerful exchange: “Why can’t you love me?” “I do love you.” “No! All of me!” Underneath that dialogue is a longing many people carry.

We want to know that someone can see all of us and still stay.

You Are Not Broken

Watching that moment, I kept wishing for a message that so many people need to hear: You’re not broken, and you don’t need fixing. At the same time, the story also shows how easy it is to fall into the trap of ruminating and letting guilt run your life. When guilt becomes the loudest voice, it can convince you that this is who you are and what you’re allowed to become.

But it doesn’t end there.

Choosing Hope

What I appreciate about the film is that it offers another possibility. It’s a powerful shift to see yourself as you truly are, and who you are doesn’t have to define what you do next. You still have a choice. One scene in the film captures this beautifully. When the street vendor gave Rumi a free bracelet and called Jinu “hopeless,” Rumi said to him, “That’s the funny thing about hope. No one else gets to decide if you feel it. That choice belongs to you.” In this case, hope doesn’t necessarily arrive when everything’s resolved. Sometimes it shows up right in the middle of the mess.

Acceptance in Everyday Moments

The film also shows acceptance in quieter ways. There are moments of appreciating food without shame, and moments where rest looks like lying on a couch instead of constantly pushing forward. These scenes remind us that being human includes allowing ourselves space to pause and simply be.

Nuanced Support

We also see how support from others can be complex and imperfect. When HUNTR/X arrived too late to save the passengers on the train, Zoey said to Rumi, “I’ll always be on your side, but it’s really hard to understand this time.” Support doesn’t always mean complete understanding. Sometimes it means someone staying beside you while you try.

The Possibility of Becoming More

While this isn’t an actual dialogue between Rumi and Jinu, I can imagine them saying something like this to each other: “I didn’t think I could be different.” “You could be more. You don’t have to be this way.” This sentiment captures something important. Being accepted for who you are doesn’t mean you’re stuck there. When we allow ourselves to be fully seen, both human and demon, strength and vulnerability, the possibility for something new emerges.

And that’s a beautiful thing.

Sunny on Perfectionism, Safety, and Intergenerational Trauma

When Perfection Is About Safety, Not Success

(What K-Pop Demon Hunters Reveals About Trauma, Identity, and the Pressure to Perform)

We often think of perfectionism as ambition. Drive. Discipline. High standards. From the outside, it can look impressive and responsible.

But for many people, especially those raised with cultural pressure, generational sacrifice narratives, or high expectations, perfectionism isn’t really about success.

It’s about safety.

In K-Pop Demon Hunters, the idols live double lives. On stage, they are polished and flawless. Off stage, they are battling demons and hiding parts of themselves they fear others cannot see. Rumi’s struggle is especially powerful. She is both human and demon, but she believes that if her full identity is exposed, everything will fall apart. Authority figures reinforce the message: if people see the whole truth, it will “ruin everything.” Sacrifice is invoked. Reputation must be protected. Image becomes survival.

The message underneath it all is clear:

If you are perfect, you are safe.
If you are fully seen, you are a threat.

For many people, that message did not come from a fantasy world. It came from childhood.

If you grew up hearing things like, “We sacrificed so much for you,” “Don’t embarrass the family,” or “You have to work twice as hard,” your nervous system may have learned something very specific: if I do everything right, nothing falls apart. If I succeed, I belong. If I don’t make mistakes, I won’t be rejected.

Perfection becomes a protective identity. A high-functioning shield. A way to survive.

You may tell yourself, “If I can just pass this hurdle, then I can rest. If I can perfect this, then I’ll finally get what I want.” But the finish line keeps moving. There is always another stage. Another expectation. Another invisible demon to fight.

For people navigating multiple cultures, this pressure can intensify. You may carry a public identity and a private one. At work, you are composed and polished. At home, you navigate tradition and generational expectations. In social spaces, you adjust again. The emotional labor of code-switching, balancing how you present with how you actually feel, is exhausting.

You may constantly cater to one side of yourself, trying to fit into a rigid mold. In the film, the Golden Honmoon represents this kind of perfection: flawless, pure, controlled. But it is also rigid. Unforgiving. There is no room for cracks.

By the end of the movie, that gold barrier is replaced by a rainbow-colored one. Not perfect. Not singular. Many colors at once. It symbolizes growth and the acceptance of imperfection. It shows that protection does not have to mean rigidity.

This shift mirrors what healing often requires.

Perfectionism frequently develops in response to trauma, not always dramatic trauma, but relational trauma. Conditional love. High criticism. Family instability. Discrimination. The pressure of representing your community well. Sometimes shame, fear, and guilt are passed down unintentionally. Caregivers who survived hardship project their anxiety forward. “For the greater good” becomes the justification. Achievement becomes repayment.

And so you become the strong one. The reliable one. The achiever. Like Mira, you carry your dual life quietly. Like Zoey, traits that once got labeled as “too much” get repurposed into something productive. You survive by adapting.

But inside, there may be shame. Fear. Guilt. A constant sense that if you crumble, the people who depend on you will see your cracks, and everything will collapse.

Perfectionism says: protect yourself. Hide the demon. Don’t let anyone see.

Healing says something different.

In K-Pop Demon Hunters, the characters are strongest when they stop hiding and fight together. They learn they don’t have to trap their guilt alone. There’s even a small, playful moment, “Couch, couch, couch!”, that reminds us how foreign rest can feel when you’re used to always being “on.” For many high achievers, rest feels unsafe. It feels undeserved. It feels like letting down the system.

But being human includes silliness. Softness. Pauses.

Rumi’s struggle with being both human and demon reflects something deeply relatable. Many people feel split, between strength and vulnerability, tradition and individuality, ambition and exhaustion. The pressure to choose one identity over the other creates internal conflict.

But healing is not about choosing.

It’s about integration.

You can be ambitious and imperfect.
You can honor your family and set boundaries.
You can represent your culture and still be fully human.
You can be high-functioning and still need support.

Perfection paints life in gold, rigid and controlled. Integration allows the full rainbow.

If perfectionism has shaped your life, it may help to ask: When did this become necessary? What was it protecting me from? Who was I trying to keep safe?

Perfection likely helped you survive something. It kept you stable. Accepted. Needed.

But survival strategies don’t have to define your entire identity.

You are allowed to step off the stage sometimes.

You are allowed to be seen whole, not just polished.

You are allowed to rest without earning it.

You are allowed to hold multiple colors at once.

Perfection was about safety.

But worth has never required it.

Amy on Identity, Redemption, and Trust

The Pressure to Stay in Your Role

A theme that stood out to me in K-Pop Demon Hunters is the pressure each character feels to stay in a certain role. Rumi carries the weight of leadership. As the leader, there’s an expectation that she keeps up a certain image and stays strong for everyone else. That pressure leaves very little room for her own internal struggle. She’s expected to hold everything together.

At the same time, Zoe and Mira also want to be seen. They each have their own characteristics, personalities, and perspectives that they bring to the group. Yet the group dynamic sometimes limits how much they can step into those parts of themselves. When one person carries the leadership role, it can unintentionally shape how everyone else shows up as well.

Wanting to Be Seen for Who You Are

This tension between roles and identity appears throughout the film. Several characters feel pressure to present themselves in a certain way, even when their internal experience is far more complicated. Jinu’s story highlights this struggle in a particularly powerful way. He’s expected to act and show up in ways that hide his humanity, while internally he carries regret and a longing for something different.

Redemption and the Courage to Change

Jinu’s storyline also brings up the theme of redemption. We all have moments we regret. We make mistakes and sometimes carry those moments with us for a long time.

The question becomes how we face those mistakes. One path is rumination, where regret keeps repeating itself and begins to define how we see ourselves. Another path is acknowledging what happened and letting it become a learning experience.

Even though the path isn’t linear, Jinu moves toward that second path. In the end, he faces what he’s done and chooses differently. Instead of letting his past define him, he breaks free from it.

In that moment, he’s able to forgive himself.

The Risk of Trusting Someone

Another powerful part of this story is the trust that develops when someone takes a risk with another person. Trust often begins with vulnerability. It means letting someone see parts of us that we usually keep hidden.

When that risk is met with understanding or compassion, something shifts. A person begins to believe that change might actually be possible.

For me, this is one of the most meaningful aspects of the story. Growth rarely happens in isolation. It often starts when someone takes the risk to be vulnerable, and another person responds with trust.

If that isn’t healing, I don’t know what is.

Ada on Understanding Old Patterns and Healing

Carrying Patterns Across Generations

In K-Pop Demon Hunters, we see how patterns of behavior and belief can carry across generations. The way Celine teaches Rumi to hide the demon part of herself is about survival. It’s a way to preserve tradition and protect her from a world that might not accept her fully. That’s understandable. Stepping outside what we know and breaking from the familiar is always scary, even when the tradition is no longer sustainable.

Hiding Parts of Ourselves

Jinu faces a similar challenge. He has good reasons to hide parts of his truth because if he shared what really happened, he’d experience even more shame and rejection. Nobody wants more of what they’re already fighting against. Both Rumi and Jinu show how people often carry the weight of survival strategies long before they understand their impact. These choices may have made sense at the time, yet they can limit connection and healing if they go unexamined.

It’s Okay to Not Know

I often say that if we’ve never been shown how to do something, we’re not supposed to know how to do it well. It’s okay to not know, and to experience the ups and downs of figuring it out with a trusted other. Connections can be healing. I’m glad Jinu had Rumi, and Rumi had Zoey and Mira. It makes me really grateful for the support our clients have outside the therapy room.

It Does Not Change How We See You

While Golden was the song that made it big, for me, What It Sounds Like will always be my favorite. It’s hard to go through life unscathed. Whatever patterns or habits we try to hide, whatever broken pieces we try to put back together, whatever distance we put between ourselves and others so we won’t be discovered… What if we could be seen for all of who we are and still be accepted and loved? Wouldn’t our jagged edges reflect a myriad of light if we could shine together?

Our clients are brave to share parts of themselves they don’t often feel comfortable showing the world. When we see their humanity, we want to tell them: "Thank you for sharing with me. It doesn’t change how I see you one bit.”

What would it be like to really take that in?

Let’s See, Support, and Celebrate You

At People Bloom, we want to see you, support you, and celebrate you exactly as you are. And, if you’ve already nailed self-acceptance but the ruminating voices in your head won’t quit, or if you’re stuck in a pattern that’s holding you back, we’re here for that too.


Ketaki Tongaonkar is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor at People Bloom Counseling. She helps people navigating multiple cultures and identities build lives that feel more authentic and balanced. She also works with stressed-out overachievers to develop healthier relationships at work, at home, and in their communities.

Originally from India, Ketaki grew up surrounded by strong community and cultural traditions. She understands firsthand the tension that can come from honoring where you come from while also becoming your own person, and she hopes she can help you get there too.


Sunny Patel is a certified EMDR and trauma therapist at People Bloom Counseling. He believes that your past doesn’t have to define your future. He helps individuals, couples, and families "deconstruct" trauma and quiet the self-doubt that often follows difficult life transitions. As a first-generation South Asian American, Sunny is particularly passionate about helping people navigate cultural expectations and find their own unique voice.

A huge fan of superhero movies, Sunny sees the 'superpower' potential in everyone. However, he wishes films showed more of the boring recovery time, because he knows that in real life, the most heroic work happens during the slow, gritty, and often zigzagging path of healing.


Amy Lai is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor at People Bloom Counseling who is passionate about helping people grow through life’s most difficult transitions. Drawing from her own experience as an immigrant and a caregiver, she supports adults navigating cultural identity, boundary setting, and the unique challenges of the "sandwich generation." She also finds it incredibly rewarding to walk with those navigating medical conditions or caregiver burnout.

Given how eventful life can be, she often takes things with a grain of salt. However, there are no conversations too small for the therapy room. If it matters to you, it matters to her, and she is committed to helping you feel seen and heard.


Ada Pang is the proud owner of People Bloom Counseling, a psychotherapy practice in Redmond. She helps unhappy couples find safety and connection in their relationships. She also works with cancer thrivers and their caregivers as they integrate cancer into their life stories.

The only thing she’d change about the movie is the last scene where HUNTR/X give up their couch time to be with fans. After everything they’ve been through, she hopes they’d find more couch time before the sequel.

What’s in a pronoun? How I came to understand and appreciate they/them

Photo by Carlos de Toro @carlosdetoro on Unsplash

If you’ve been on a Zoom call lately, you’ve probably noticed that pronouns are listed under many of your colleague’s names, and that you can edit your pronoun with a single click. What a concept! Technology has enabled us to express this important aspect of ourselves to anyone we e-meet so they can know our pronouns at first glance. Wherever you lie on the gender spectrum, you can’t miss the changing landscape of gender diversity awareness.

I identify as queer, and my pronouns are she/her. While I don’t use gender-neutral pronouns myself, I appreciate organizations and workplaces that place importance on respecting people’s pronouns in conversation. I want to share my journey of love/hate relationship with the they/them pronouns, and how I eventually came around to the love side (the TL/DR version is, just respect people’s pronouns, dammit!)

When pronouns first entered the collective conversation, the English language purist in me struggled with the grammatical inconsistency of the they/them pronouns. I insisted that grammatically, it does not follow to refer to a singular person as if they are a collective “them” in a sentence. Perhaps partly in response to this very concern, the LGBTQ community came up with other pronoun options, called neopronouns, such as “Ze/hir,” or “xe/xyr”used to indicate non-binary gender. 

For a comprehensive list of gender neutral pronouns and short but sweet history lesson of the evolution of the inclusive “one” instead of “he/she,” pronouns, see this great resource from the University of Wisconsin.

Personally, I’m in the camp that would prefer to add new words to the English language than to butcher grammatical rules.  When I learned about options other than “they and “them” for gender neutral pronouns, I was 100% on board! I wanted to shout from the rooftops that everyone with gender non-comforming preferences could choose a neopronoun, and we could finally be rid of this pesky misused “they.” But change isn’t quick to come, and people haven’t picked up these other pronoun options like I hoped. Neopronouns are used by some, but they’re not very common. They/Them have won out as the most commonly used gender neutral pronouns. A recent survey showed that 25% of LGBTQ youth in the US use gender neutral pronouns. Just 4% use neopronouns. The English nut in me refused to accept it for a long time - I clung on to a wish for the way it could be, if only everyone just adapted and chose anything but “they/them!” Be a ze! Be a xyr! A Mx or a per! Ok this is turning into a Dr. Seuss rhyme.

Grammar be damned

Our constantly evolving world has made me take a hard look at myself. In the last few years I’ve been consciously working on inclusivity and questioning my resistance to the they/them pronoun. The first thing I questioned was the obsession with keeping the English language “pure:” who says things have to be the way they always were? Language evolves - English is the way it is because of cultural shifts and geographic migrations over centuries. Even “perfect” grammar as it was taught to me would probably be appalling to someone from the 1700s. This Here is a great resource explaining all the scenarios where “they/them” would be appropriate to use. While change can be hard to accept, ultimately changes to language are natural, and show that we are progressing as humans. Modifications to language are reflections of changing attitudes, and in the case of expanding LGBTQ rights, this is a welcome cultural change. 

Respecting my fellow humans

I also started being more mindful of people’s wishes - recognizing their human right to have non-conforming gender expression, gender identity, and pronouns. All this meant making a deliberate effort to think in terms of pronouns. I thought about the people I know with gender neutral pronouns, and I made a conscious effort to use them, both in my thoughts and in conversation. If you’re not used to using non-binary pronouns, try it out:

“Xander wasn’t in English class today, have you seen them?”

“Oh, they had a dentist appointment. They should be back by third period. You don’t have to worry about them, they’re fine!”

Practice practice practice 

If you know someone’s pronoun preferences, think of them in the terms they request, and practice using their pronouns when referencing them. And remember they have the right to change their pronouns over time, as they learn about themselves. Practicing using people’s pronouns will hopefully make you feel confident that you’ll get it right when speaking to your friends with neutral pronouns directly.

Simplicity

So, xe/xyr didn’t take off. That’s ok, maybe someday… (but for those who do use neopronouns, more power to you!) For those that use they/them,  I’ll concede that this has its pros. Using they/them simplifies the pronoun question for anyone who is new to the concept, or may find the other pronouns options confusing. They/them is a palatable approach that may bring pronoun preference awareness to the mainstream consciousness. We already use the words “they” and “them,” so these words can easily be added to the lexicon in another context, without having to learn new words. For many, there would be less resistance to this pronoun than to brand new words. 

Giving it meaning

I learned to appreciate they/them on a philosophical level as well: When we pluralize a pronoun that’s referring to a single person, I see it as a way of including all aspects that make a person who they are, including any and all gender expressions with which they identify. Using the term them includes the many ways our identities intersect to make us our unique selves.

Thanks for letting me take you on my journey of acceptance of something I shouldn’t have been so resistant to in the first place.  I know I have completely fixated on they/them pronouns here, but it’s mostly out of necessity because they’re the most prevalent gender neutral pronouns we see these days. All that to say, I don’t mean to dismiss other pronouns. All pronouns are welcome! I hope that with time, people feel more comfortable stating their preference for the pronouns that make them feel like their authentic selves.

If you’re not sure what someone’s pronouns are, just ask! And it’s also ok to screw it up at first  - most people in the LGBTQ community appreciate the effort to get it right. And if you do mess up, the best approach is to correct yourself and move on, without apologizing.

I wanted to end on this blog with a delightful Schoolhouse Rock throwback about pronouns - who would have thought back in the day when we were watching our grammar lesson cartoons that these conversations would be front and center in our collective consciousness 30 years later? Enjoy!

If you need support in understanding your own or a loved one’s gender identity, a trained therapist can help. Reach out to one of our therapists today.


Karen Lenz is the Office Whiz and Insurance Guru at People Bloom Counseling. She writes blog posts as a human navigating this world, a client sitting across from a therapist, much like you. She enjoys cooking, hiking, playing with her dogs, and dabbling in yoga.


People of Color May Have their Defenses Up, and with Good Reason

Photo by Alan Billyeald on Unsplash

Our recent adventure

Husband and I went on an RV trip to Central California in late-September. School has resumed; it’s time to travel in the off-season and enjoy the changing fall colors. We went as far as the south bay to visit my in-laws and then to the Stanislaus National Forest where my husband used to camp every year growing up. We had many memorable moments, but what stuck out was an experience that helped deepen my understanding of what BIPOC and other marginalized groups might feel on a regular basis. 

We pulled into a busy campground close to San Francisco on a busy weekend. The site was packed and fully booked, hustling and bustling with people. Kids were playing, riding on scooters, swimming, and visiting the petting farm. It was happenin’! At check-in, we were told our campsite with full hook up does not have a sewage hookup. However, these “VIP spots” involve a dark and grey water tank truck that comes by 8 am in the morning to empty it for us. Thus, we were told to leave our box unlocked. 

All that was fine. By now, the sun had 45 minutes to set. I was ready to get our rig set up so I can go for a quick jog, so time is of the essence. We rolled into our spot and there was not one, but two cars parked there. One of its owners quickly moved out while the other owner was nowhere to be found. While I know in my head that everything takes longer during COVID, it is no less frustrating to wait for someone to move their vehicle so our evening could continue. 

Things don’t always go as planned

Husband and I did the best we could, coming head-to-head to the vehicle and starting to level with blocks as best we could. By now, I’d given up hope that I could go for my jog. After 15 minutes of waiting,  the property manager finally drove up in his golf cart carrying the driver of the remaining vehicle. Looking sheepish and with a faint smile on his face, he hopped into his vehicle without a word and drove off. 

I was upset. What the fuck was that? We had to re-park and re-level, taking up more of our time. If one of us were a white male, would the dude have apologized before driving off? Being Asian-American looking, even though our identities are much more complicated than that, it’s one of those things we’d never know. It’s also hard to not notice how many of the RVers are White, as RVing amongst POC, while growing during the pandemic, is still lagging. Here’s an article about the outdoors being a predominantly White pastime

Sigh. After chatting with my husband and naming what this brought up for me, I could either stay upset or move on with my evening. I did my workout in the RV instead, careful to lay off on the jumping, and carried on. 

The gut punch came the next day, or at least what I thought was the last straw that broke the camel’s back.

The tipping point

We left our tank hookup area unlocked, as suggested by the office. When we went to detach the water source the next morning, we found a pinch-off lock tool in the place of one of the shutoff valve handles for the fresh water drain. Did the rig rental come like that? Why didn’t we notice it, having done hookups multiple times during the beginning of the trip? By now, it is hard for my mind to not go to this place of us having been pranked. Hatred against Asian Americans has been on the rise since COVID and as much as we tried to continue to live our lives as best we could, I felt less safe in that moment.

When microaggressions add up

I’m usually a friendly person, but now, I have the resting bitch face on. Looking unfriendly feels protective and gives the message, “Don’t mess with me”. 

My husband, being a fourth-generation Japanese American, is a bit more removed from his Japanese racial and cultural identity. He took the more neutral position and kept questioning whether this was how we picked up the rental. Following his lead, I jumped on the conclusion bandwagon and emailed the manager of the RV rental company with photos. Within hours, he got back to us, saying that’s how the rig came and they’re waiting for a replacement part to arrive.

Now, you could say I misunderstood or wrongly thought we had a target on our backs. That was partly the case, but think about the experiences we had that led up to the last event: two cars parked in our spot, no apologies from the driver who kept us waiting, the sight of mostly White neighbors when we’re used to seeing other POC in our Seattle communities… Everyone can misunderstand at times; that’s part of being human. But when people from historically and all the more currently marginalized communities go through life, thoughts about whether they were treated one way or another because of their race, culture, sexual orientation, language, appearance, etc., can become top of mind. 

The right to not be friendly

With time, my resting bitch face slowly melted away because I felt mostly safe in the dominant culture, tapping into adaptive strategies to keep going. I went on with the rest of my trip, waving and saying hi to strangers, like my usual self. But through all this, I was reminded that people don’t have to be friendly back. People from marginalized groups can have additional reasons for how they show up in the world. Being friendly and smiley to strangers may be welcomed in some cultures but not others. People might just want to go on their walk and be left alone, and that’s ok. Just because I want to tell people I see them does not mean they need to reciprocate. Whatever they might be going through, ignoring me is a valid response.

All that to say, our inner experiences affect how we show up in the world. It’s not good or bad, right or wrong. It just is. If you need help navigating your intersecting identities, our counselors are here for you. We are a diverse group of people and personalities, with different lived experiences. I hope we can help!


Ada Pang is the proud owner of People Bloom Counseling, a Redmond psychotherapy practice. She helps unhappy couples find safety and connection in their relationship. She also helps cancer thrivers and their caregivers integrate cancer into their life stories. She identifies as a Hong Kong immigrant, Canadian, US permanent resident, cis-gender woman. That is so much more than being Asian American. For that reason, she celebrates the identities that make you uniquely you.